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Кто вернее хозяину из самоедов - сука или кабель?!
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Да, я считаю, что самоед - это самоед. А лайки (и лайкоиды) - это лайки, в принципе, лайка - это больше охотничья собака.

А народные названия... знаете, они как-то дико звучат из уст самоедчика (или человека, который таковым собирается стать).
Если следовать народной молве, то - самоед - это хаска с неправильными глазами, бракованный чау-чау и еще много чего (есть на форуме соот тема). Вот когда владельцы самоедов идут на поводу у молвы и радостно вещают, что у них лайка оказывается - так и рождается молва народная.

Ну да если кто является владельцем самоедской лайки (то есть собаки породы, неизвестной FCI), то - имеет право :lol:


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Итак счет 9-5 - суки перевешивают, кто еще хочет проголосовать?! :D

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Может кто и хочет проголосовать, но вы не даете им такой возможности урезав сроки голосования до 7-ми дней. Ваш опрос уже давно не работает )))

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мои 5 копеек. у меня и то и другое. сказать кого я больше люблю я не могу-как и не могу сказать кого я больше люблю-сына или дочь. фортуниха,не смотря на всю свою послушность и шелковость-ТАК изысканно мстит за все что хочет, что люлей получает от меня ТОЛЬКО она. например-вырыть нору в матрасе, нассать на все одеяла-а я не люблю гостей-так она сказала бы!!! поздно пришла с работы- вот тебе сьеденные тапки, и финика она облапошивает только так.когда он появился, она ему как бы все рассказывала, что можно и что нельзя-так она его пыталась выжить, чтоб типа сам убежал.я в шоке была!!!!если финик ляжет ко мне на диван-завтра там будет лужа.Ибо нефиг ему смерду неумытому на царском месте лежать с хозяйкой.а когда уходят гости-так она валяется на диване, там где они сидели на спине-типа это мое все.сволочуга?но при этом нежна, мила и послушна до безобразия на улице, даже косточку плюнет с 1 взгляда. финик-готов всем кобелям поголовно дать люлей, радиус прогулки у него километров 5, причем всех сук-а гуляем мы с 3суками-пасет ревностно.загнать домой сложно, и все равно будет пытаться улизнуть.зато прост, не мстит, не грызет, не ворует в таких количествах как фаня и не будет месяц помнить, что ему дали по рогам за что либо.


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У меня раньше была сука, а теперь и то и другое.
И я полностью согласна с владельцами, имеющими сразу и кобеля и суку - есть с чем сравнить.
Моя Даша - та ещё стерва - строит Фокса, хотя меньше его и младше. Но дрессируется на раз, никогда не выпускает меня из виду (чего не скажешь о мальчике), нежна и ласкова и конечно же хитра. Если ей попадает за её выкрутасы, она тут же начинает подлизываться, мол Я такая хорошая, чего не скажешь о кобеле. Тот при раздаче волшебных пенделей сразу пытается скрыться в укромном уголке. А уж как он любит всех девочек!!! При совместных тренеровках Дарья смотрит мне в глаза, а Фокс - по сторонам, всё блюдёт территорию :(
И во время течки я свою девочку регулярно подмываю и никакого запаха от неё нет, а вот когда кобель в охоте - амбре ещё то...
И это всё из собственного опыта и только моё мнение :)


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Ура!!!
Опрос продлен до бесконечности :!:
Кто хочет еще высказать свое мнение?! :arrow:

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насчет дрессировки. обучаю обоих-финик умнее, но ленив и своенравен, фаня старательна и старается из кожи вон вылезти, чтоб угодить.поэторму знает больше команд и прочих вещей.


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Ну вот все равно перевес большой в сторону сук, 15 против 8 человек. :D
Статистика страшное дело... :wink:

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Íó âîò âñå ðàâíî ïåðåâåñ áîëüøîé â ñòîðîíó ñóê, 15 ïðîòèâ 8 ÷åëîâåê. :D
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Я конечно не собаковод, а только любитель собственной собачки. Но позвольте мне присоединиться к тем кто является приверженцем сук. Если честно говорить, то свою Бусю я выбирал исходя из охотничьей практики- суки лучше работают по дичи, и даже не просто лучше, а как то мудрее что ли. При этом я прекрасно понимал что самоед все таки не охотничья, а ездовая собака, но тешил себя надеждой что успею вовремя "притравить" собачку и она мне станет компаньоном еще и в лесу. Но как всегда закон подлости сработал без исключений и в нужное время отпуск был с "горбом". Но мы с Бусей регулярно ПРАВИЛЬНО облаиваем белок в Тимирязевском лесу и собственно большей радости она вряд ли может мне доставить чем простое присутствие в нашей семье. Так что даже и сукой мне ее называть не очень приятно - просто еще одна девченка в нашей семье.

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У меня дома и суки и кобели. Я поняла, что от пола собаки ничего не зависит, а зависит только характер самой собаки при рождении. Хоть её воспитываешь с рождения или она приходит из другого дома, но вот какая она должна быть такая и будет. Разница между сукой и кобелём только в весовой и силовой категории. Во время течки конечно могут собаки пофыркать по отношению к кому-либо и всё. И ещё разница в выгуливании, сука делает все свои дела побыстрее. Но если бы у меня не было собак и сегодня стоял вопрос сука или кобель, то я бы выбрала кобеля. Но это в моём случае, хотя дома суки в большинстве. У кого дома маленькие дети, я всегда рекомендую взять девочку.


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